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windows 8 malware inhibitor
on: June 30, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
is there something as simple as an app to install on windows 8 that can control what my dear mother installed?

i know is used to put ad aware and soemthing similar called spybot on everything i was vcleaning up, but windows defender doesn't seem to do sh*t against stuff like wajam

so is there something to put on that will stop her installing sh*t and wasting my sunday mornings cleaning it up?

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #1 on: June 30, 2013, 13:47:05 PM
Yeah, it's called not giving her the administrator account.
Make her a standard user account so she can't install stuff and just use teamviewer/logmein to install things as and when.

This way she can click yes to hear hearts content.

Or install Linux.

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #2 on: June 30, 2013, 13:49:02 PM
Or update the hosts file to control adverts and malware .
Or use opendns?

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #3 on: June 30, 2013, 18:57:59 PM
Yeah, it's called not giving her the administrator account.
Make her a standard user account so she can't install stuff and just use teamviewer/logmein to install things as and when.

This way she can click yes to hear hearts content.

Or install Linux.

thats honestly the funniest thing ive ever read on here. if i wanted to give her a locked down xp install i would, but i dont.

so ill ask again, since soopah doesn't seem to understnad the question

whats the 2013 equivalent of spybot and does it stop browser add ons that dontfollow the rules?


Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #4 on: June 30, 2013, 19:04:09 PM
I perfectly understand the question.  Malware wouldn't be an issue if people set their computers up properly.
If she can't use a computer without installing malware, she shouldn't have access to the admin account.
My brother was the same.  Took away admin privileges and never had an issue. 
Used GPO to disable brower addons too.

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A user account determines how you interact with your PC and personalize it. For example, your account determines which files and folders you can access, the changes you can make to the PC, and your personal preferences, such as your desktop background or screen saver. If you create separate accounts for other people, they don't have to share the same settings, which means you can restrict access to your files, folders, and even give different desktop backgrounds to other accounts.

There are three types of accounts. Each type gives you a different level of control over the PC:

Administrator accounts provide the most control over a PC, and should be used sparingly. You probably created this type of account when you first started using your PC.

Standard accounts are for everyday use. If you're setting up accounts for other people on your PC, it's a good idea to give them standard accounts.

Guest accounts are useful when people need to use a PC temporarily. You can turn on your PC's guest account in Control Panel.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/user-accounts-frequently-asked-questions

So instead of getting pissy with me, how about you learn the very basics of setting up an OS and set her computer up properly.
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Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #5 on: June 30, 2013, 22:58:28 PM
Isn't this exactly what Microsoft Security Essentials is for? I mean, it should pick up anything like that if left in real-time mode I think.
Last Edit: June 30, 2013, 23:18:40 PM by Clock'd 0Ne #187;

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 08:33:53 AM
how about you learn the very basics of setting up an OS and set her computer up properly.

your properly = my remoting on and installing her software for her every time she needs something different. then she'll never learn to read what sh*t open office is dropping on her machine (snap.do anyone?) and i'll lose an hour a week to it. not gonna happen. thats not proper, thats corporate methodology and it doesn't help home users teach themselves how to look after their pc's.

if you dont want pissed off responses, answer the question.

thanks clock'd one, i'll make sure its actually on there and running. the lenovo build has some weird software installed by default and some weird omissions.

this laptop is also the second ive seen in a week with wajam on it. not sure what it is but i dont like it.

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 08:53:52 AM
How often do you honestly think she'll want software installing?

Aside from Office, Antivirus and Solitaire, what else would she realistically use? 

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 10:08:22 AM
EMET. Google it. :) almost no one runs it but it'd protect you from a crapton of harmful sh*t.

Also, soopah is right.

My dad has admin because he asks before clicking next, I have admin, my sister and mum don't have admin. Because they do things like "well we saw a screen that said it was going to restore the factory image so we just clicked next. Where are my pictures gone?"
Last Edit: July 01, 2013, 10:10:55 AM by M3ta7h3ad #187;

Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 13:18:02 PM
Oh and wajam... Isn't malware. In fact the company is currently working with anti virus vendors to minimise the false positives that happen.

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Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 09:59:01 AM
Oh and wajam... Isn't malware.

I didnt ok the installation of it. it got side loaded from something, not sure what, but thats the very definition of malware to me. something that you dont want to install but still find has locked itself into your browser and made decisions on your search engine of choice for you.


Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 10:22:54 AM
Its a BHO of course it'll augment your internet experience.

As for you not clicking okay, no... Your mum did because she has admin rights. ;)

Its basically a "potentially unwanted program (PUP)" at best so AV can't be guaranteed to pick it up.

Look at EMET though and consider deploying it for hardening your mums browser against stuff, that said she's an admin so can always circumvent any protection you put on.

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Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 10:54:30 AM
ime, most mother's etc.. won't click to install stuff they don't know about... they'll phone there geeky son first

every time I've had to fix my mothers computer it's been someone else using it who's installed some crap (facebook games etc..)


Re: windows 8 malware inhibitor
Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
As for you not clicking okay, no... Your mum did because she has admin rights. ;)

i found it on my new windows 7 box too. and i definitely didnt install it. the common thread between the two machines is open office.

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