Maybe you should do an engineering course. Thered be more blokes around as well as PCs (not that Clockd will thank me for saying this lol)    

 

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Quote from: Sam

I agree with Nathan. Pointless. Just being different for different sakes.

Plus their development tools are horrible. Xcode and Objective C is 50 years behind everything else.

OpenCL isnt though.....

nothing to do with general coding, its just an abstraction of things like CUDA.

edit: Have you ever tried CUDA - its really rather good. I got a speed up of over 100x for a bitmap transform (silly test case I did).

True though opencl its a bit broader in scope than CUDA, theyve got AMD on board too for a start and it isnt GPU specific rather it will whore out tasks to any processor available. Has a not too insignificant chance of being fairly significant in future (in certain areas). Nvidia claim that CUDA is going to be slightly better on their cards, lower level of abstraction, access to more specific functionality etc..etc... however that could be irrelevant whenever ATI releases some faster/cheaper GFX card...

Havent played with CUDA yet, have been meaning to play with it at some point though.

As far as the mac vs pc thing goes Ive got both and I do quite like the mac for general use (in fact pretty much everything except excel, which is a big pile of wank on a Mac).

Im not a developer so perhaps less interested in the xcode/eclipse thing not that it should be a thing anyway as eclipse is available on the mac too.

As for the car analogy seems to have been a few in here - Jaguar S type vs Ford Mondeo is probably a good one - same chassis, same engine, different finishing touches, brand, build quality, driving experience etc...

Yes since moving to intel macs basically are very comparable to PCs in terms of the underlying hardware - I do prefer the apple OS (use windows on a daily basis too), the battery life is better than any PC laptop Ive owned (have got a fairly recent Dell too), and there are silly little features which are nice like the powerlead having a magnet in it, nice screen, nice finish generally a bit more thought going into the whole form and function of the thing. Spending a few hundred quid more for essentially the same hardware but a slightly better design, OS you prefer etc... isnt going to break the bank.

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They dont care that the one button mouse is a stubbornly retarded design flaw

Strange, my MBP supports one, two, three and four finger clicks and gestures, making it much more usable than a two or three button trackpad.

Not being funny, but who wants to click the button four times for one action, when you could have another button?

Some people might want to open a context menu, not play with the OS like its a first person shooter. My Logitech mouse has 8 buttons and scroll action and I bet it was still cheaper than an Apple one button jobbie (and more ergonomic).

No, as in it can tell how many fingers Im tapping the trackpad with. If I want a context menu I tap the trackpad with two fingers. If I want to scroll (in any direction) I use two fingers to scroll around. Three fingers left and right work as back and forward gestures and four fingers up and down activate (in my case) Exposé.

I can also rotate images by turning two fingers around each other and zoom in and out my pinching. This is all on a trackpad with, technically, *no* physical buttons, which means I have around 4" x 3" trackable surface.

No, as in it can tell how many fingers Im tapping the trackpad with. If I want a context menu I tap the trackpad with two fingers. If I want to scroll (in any direction) I use two fingers to scroll around. Three fingers left and right work as back and forward gestures and four fingers up and down activate (in my case) Exposé.

I can also rotate images by turning two fingers around each other and zoom in and out my pinching. This is all on a trackpad with, technically, *no* physical buttons, which means I have around 4" x 3" trackable surface.

That does sound very good for a trackpad actually.

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No, as in it can tell how many fingers Im tapping the trackpad with. If I want a context menu I tap the trackpad with two fingers. If I want to scroll (in any direction) I use two fingers to scroll around. Three fingers left and right work as back and forward gestures and four fingers up and down activate (in my case) Exposé.

I can also rotate images by turning two fingers around each other and zoom in and out my pinching. This is all on a trackpad with, technically, *no* physical buttons, which means I have around 4" x 3" trackable surface.

That does sound very good for a trackpad actually.

Feels funny to start with but you get used to it, Defiantly the best trackpad I have used on a laptop.

I one loves mac software why not get a good PC and put snow leopard on it ?

It is not like linux or Unix though. It is tailored to the hardware. There are no drivers etc. You do not install drivers and what not on a mac like you do for pc.
To get a pc set up and OSX you need to have a certain set of hardware to function. The CPU alone you need one of a list or it wont run for example. So while you can your just basically building a mac with pc hardware at a cheaper cost. OF course your breaking the terms of use with the OS so an update at any time could cause your pc not to boot up at all etc.
Doable, lots do but not straight forward.

They tailor it to the hardware.

Tbh I think you both need to practice what you preach. Nexus, take the advice you have given Sam and re-read what you posted. Sam does learn things, as I am sure you do (after all he did to to america to study computing or something...) Attitude wise, tbh both stink at times, specifically when you two come to heads. Neither of you are innocent of throwing the first "forum" punch.

And pretty much you guys just prove each other right every time you post this crap, so the sooner you stop, the sooner itll be over

Im offended by that. I dont care what Nexus says as his posts show him to be an idiot. But my posts, whether or not you agree with my points, are at least coherent and intelligent.