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Privateer · **on:** February 02, 2009, 22:30:21 PM

Victory 2

on: February 02, 2009, 22:30:21 PM

Just found another ship, in the channel how odd, but they know her cargo holds billions

zpyder · **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2009, 22:34:59 PM

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Any link to this news/source?

Privateer · **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2009, 22:37:55 PM

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Quote from: zpyder

Any link to this news/source?

just saw it on News at 10, as yet nothing ill post links as they appear

found one.

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Wreck of HMS Victory recovered from Channel
The shipwrecked predecessor to Lord Nelsons HMS Victory, which is thought to contain millions of pounds worth of gold, is thought to have been found at the bottom of the English Channel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4424093/Wreck-of-HMS-Victory-recovered-from-Channel.html
another this one is more informative
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/guernsey/7866103.stm

Eggtastico · **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2009, 09:11:03 AM

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its the HMS Victory - not 2 - 2 is the one in the docks.

zpyder · **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2009, 09:16:42 AM

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Hehe, I bet the Receiver of Wreck has been having a lovely time

Privateer · **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2009, 09:24:05 AM

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Quote from: Eggtastico

Quote from: zpyder
Any link to this news/source?

its the HMS Victory - not 2 - 2 is the one in the docks.

now that ive read about it it is the first victory but several wont know that, as it goes Nelsons Victory in Portsmouth Ive visited 10 times Im a Navy nut, I could not join the Navy because I was born in South Africa

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Mighty HMS Victory wreck found

The wreck of a ship which has been found off the Channel Islands has been confirmed as the legendary warship HMS Victory which sank in 1744.

Quixoticish · **Reply #6 on:** February 03, 2009, 09:37:00 AM

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Actually there is no "2" in the equation. They are HMS Victory and HMS Victory, the name is simply commissioned on the second ship and never referred to or known as (either officially or unofficially) as a "2" or "II" or similar.

Incidentally it wouldnt be "2" either. There have been six ships to bear the name Victory if memory serves. The one this article talks about would be the fourth, and Nelsons flagship the sixth, both first rates. There was another first rate prior to this (I cant recall the exact dates), along with two fifth rate frigates and a 10 gun schooner.

Serious · **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:08:14 AM

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Royal navy ships were never numbered with their name, similar to the USS Enterprise on Star Trek the designation number changed if anything. Ship names were invariably reused although Victory wasnt as that ship was never decommissioned. Is now the oldest flagship in the navy (visited it years ago for that fact). Early Royal Navy ships is one area Im not familiar with so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Victory_(disambiguation)

Six ships pretty much what Chris says.

Privateer · **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:12:08 AM

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Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 10:12:08 AM

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Actually there is no "2" in the equation. They are HMS Victory and HMS Victory, the name is simply commissioned on the second ship and never referred to or known as (either officially or unofficially) as a "2" or "II" or similar.

Incidentally it wouldnt be "2" either. There have been six ships to bear the name Victory if memory serves. The one this article talks about would be the fourth, and Nelsons flagship the sixth, both first rates. There was another first rate prior to this (I cant recall the exact dates), along with two fifth rate frigates and a 10 gun schooner.

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The ship, the fourth of six HMS Victories, sunk with its 1,150 sailors in October 1744 around The Casquets, a group of rocks off the Channel Islands. Among other valuable artefacts, it is thought to contain 100,000 gold coins.

technically they found HMS Victory 4, they found it last may the spanish goverment have been arseholes,

Quixoticish · **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:29:24 AM

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Thats what I said Privateer. Well, at least regarding this being the fourth RN ship to bear the name Victory. (Not "Victory 4").

Serious · **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:30:03 AM

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Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 10:30:03 AM

Technically they found the 4th HMS Victory...

Eggtastico · **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:38:16 AM

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Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 10:38:16 AM

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Hehe, I bet the Receiver of Wreck has been having a lovely time

as its a military wreck, the cargo belongs to the UK Treasury. Though the finders will get a large slice of the est $1billion loot.

Quixoticish · **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:38:43 AM

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Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 10:38:43 AM

Okay. Time to bail on this thread. Have fun guys.

zpyder · **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:54:00 AM

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Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 10:54:00 AM

Quote from: Eggtastico

Quote from: zpyder
Hehe, I bet the Receiver of Wreck has been having a lovely time

as its a military wreck, the cargo belongs to the UK Treasury. Though the finders will get a large slice of the est $1billion loot.

Yes, and which agency is responsible for the handling of all salvage? It doesnt matter who it belongs to, the reports and actions must legally be put through to the RoW first. I worked there for a stint so my comment was based on knowing what it was like. They only have a couple of people in the dept., and in general not much goes on (most people dont bother filing salvage reports, as if they think its valuable they are scared of losing it. The RoW also is required to take part in legal proceedings such as the (relatively) recent court cases where ownership of wrecks sunk during the world wars was brought into question in regards to wargraves etc. I was at the Court of Appeal case with the RoW on that, most boring day of my life.

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