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Reply #90 on: March 13, 2008, 14:28:49 PM
Apple and Microsoft have a great deal of patents in the arena now but there are rival phones floating around.

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Reply #91 on: March 13, 2008, 18:47:17 PM
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Has Apple  got some sort of monopoly on multitouch interfaces for phones?

Wouldve thought wed hear about rival phones with similar tech by now...



nope, they and MS have both licenced multitouch tech from the guys who invented it.

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Reply #92 on: March 13, 2008, 19:26:55 PM
I have an xda orbit 2... far superior to an iphone :) Had a play with one in my local o2 shop was not impressed. :\ xda though... AWESOME! :D

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Reply #93 on: March 13, 2008, 22:14:45 PM
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Iphone 3
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/03/12/iphone-x86

I know its the inquirer but can they really be suggesting that a phone technology 2-3 years from now has nailed down a core and gone x86 instead of an integrated piece of silicon?

Got to love the inquirer :)


Do you think it would be that far down the line? With what you said to me and on the forums before the only sticking point in updated versions now is pissing people of margin?
You got what you could call version 1.5 with bigger space, they must have number 2 virtually ready already?
Version 3 could be end of the year next year surly?

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Reply #94 on: March 14, 2008, 11:13:08 AM
I dont think anyone can work out Apples release schedule on anything.

Im not sure where youre getting those release dates from.

Putting a bigger hard disk into a phone isnt really a version 1.5 tbh, its simply an upgraded component.  A hardware revision is a change of silicon and afaik noone knows what apple are up to on that front.  Speculating a whole generation beyond what theyre currently working on based on a slide picture is what the inquirer does but not convinced by its reliability.

I work on the basis the inquirer just takes pot shots at every story they hear and sooner or later theyll get one right and ignore the thousands of wrong theories.  Its fun but their posts have to be taken with a pinch of salt

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Reply #95 on: March 14, 2008, 11:50:32 AM
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I dont think anyone can work out Apples release schedule on anything.

Im not sure where youre getting those release dates from.

I am not, I am just putting done some guess work and asking you what you think as you know a lot more about it then I do
Basing my guesses on how Ipod revisions and macbooks etc go with at least a few versions a year, each year, but again I am asking a question from someone who knows more in the area.

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Putting a bigger hard disk into a phone isnt really a version 1.5 tbh, its simply an upgraded component.  

Agreeded, probably not a right term but it is still another version one up as it were from the first gen, but as you say not really an update to a phone hence why I said 1.5 rather then 2.

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A hardware revision is a change of silicon and afaik noone knows what apple are up to on that front.  Speculating a whole generation beyond what theyre currently working on based on a slide picture is what the inquirer does but not convinced by its reliability.

Probably right, but what do you think about its direction and versions?

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I work on the basis the inquirer just takes pot shots at every story they hear and sooner or later theyll get one right and ignore the thousands of wrong theories.  Its fun but their posts have to be taken with a pinch of salt

Probably hence asking a person who you know who seems more in the know in this regard ^^

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Reply #96 on: March 14, 2008, 12:23:19 PM
I dont really want to speculate on it Im afraid.  Apple are a world unto themselves on this stuff.

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Reply #97 on: March 14, 2008, 12:36:15 PM
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I dont really want to speculate on it Im afraid.  Apple are a world unto themselves on this stuff.


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And on the second day The Lord Said "Let there be jeans, these shall be worn with the turtleneck sweaters for talking to The Press"
On the Third Day, The Lord Said "Let there be a Branded MP3 player, and let us claim the credit for inventing it, and let us pay the real inventors a royalty for each one sold so they keep quiet about it. Then let us gift it to the masses for twice the price of any other, but package it as a style accessory." This happened and all was good in The Lords Eyes.
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On the Sixth Day The Lord Said "Let us take out Laptop line, strip lots of things from it, use underpowered hardware, and sell it at the same price as the Really High End stuff". This was done, and The Church profited greatly from Style Obsessed.
On the Seventh Day The Lord Said "This shall be a day of rest, for use to survey out bank balances and snort cocain from the breasts of Brazillian Prostitiutes, while we laugh at the people who buy anything we make", and it was done.

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Reply #98 on: March 14, 2008, 13:19:55 PM
Apples products are exceptionally good tbh.

If cash isnt really a big concern then I cant think of many better alternatives to apples high end stuff.

But theres a lot more people driving fords than porsches too I guess.  Both do a similar job.

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Reply #99 on: March 14, 2008, 13:34:48 PM
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Apples products are exceptionally good tbh.

If cash isnt really a big concern then I cant think of many better alternatives to apples high end stuff.

But theres a lot more people driving fords than porsches too I guess.  Both do a similar job.


Apples products are good and reliable because they have such a tight control over the hardware specs.  Where they fall down is value for money.  i.e. you cant argue they are good bang-for-buck, even in a dim light if you squint.  

The comparison of Ford and Porsche doesnt work by the way.  I would suggest Ford and Jaguar, because like Apple Machines and Windows Boxen they arent exactly worlds apart under the skin.  I would have accepted the Porsche analogy if they where still PowerPC based though.

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Reply #100 on: March 14, 2008, 13:37:36 PM
Nope - youre 100% right.  Value for money is poo and the Ford -> Jaguar analogy is better.

In this world unfortunately you seem to have to pay twice the price for something 5% better. and 10x the price for something 10% better.

I just buy Dell lol :D

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Reply #101 on: March 14, 2008, 13:41:11 PM
New Mondeo reviews = better then a BMW a lot more expensive.

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Reply #103 on: March 31, 2008, 08:49:45 AM
Iphone Pwned
http://youtube.com/watch?v=siuKQw6L6Rk
It was going to happen but true firmware hack for the iphone letting you do lots more then jailbreaking just does now but the main reason you would do this is the ease of it all again and working through itunes also


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