Winmo 7 isnt going to be any better.  

Android market place is groqingbur its no where near that of the apple app store yet.
Android is on many phones these days but it is far from in a huge spike of growth.

Android is really good but has many flaws. The updates and slow adoption of updates on phones is terrible. There are new phones coming out now with 2  versions old OS on them.

Still think palm screwed themselves, they made a great IS, probably my fav and they messed up the adoption and marketing.
The guy that made the brilliant notifications interface for webos has just moved to apple.

As I said at the end of the day it is when your ready for a new phone what features you want and which looks nice for you at that time. As long as there are a good amount of phones on the cards thats what is important. Always newer and better coming out so you have to forget that and get what appeals to you.

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The only thing that annoys me is they get on as if they invented apps, they seem to forget the massive amount of them out for windows ce, and more importantly - epoc/epoc32, the grand daddy.

I and my mates were writing beerware (Does anyone remember that!) for the psion series of devices before most iphone users were born.

If they were that good then why havent they been as successful? Apple came into this late in the game and has a app market that completely eclipses anyone else.

The psion devices were incredibly successful! They were seen as a business tool, and marketed as such.

The iphone may have a lot of applications, but a large percentage of them are fart noise generators. And it is aimed at a totally different market.

Should be solveable with a sensible mobile equivalent of java or similar - so eventually you only need to customize the platform for each phone and the apps are broadly platform-independent.

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Android market place is groqingbur its no where near that of the apple app store yet.
Android is on many phones these days but it is far from in a huge spike of growth.

Android is really good but has many flaws. The updates and slow adoption of updates on phones is terrible. There are new phones coming out now with 2  versions old OS on them.

Still think palm screwed themselves, they made a great IS, probably my fav and they messed up the adoption and marketing.
The guy that made the brilliant notifications interface for webos has just moved to apple.

As I said at the end of the day it is when your ready for a new phone what features you want and which looks nice for you at that time. As long as there are a good amount of phones on the cards thats what is important. Always newer and better coming out so you have to forget that and get what appeals to you.

I think the problem with the android could well be in its openness.
Apple basically got a leash on its apps on the app stores. Having something wide open as android could cause itself problems in the future.
I just feel its going to get messy. Suddenly you could have a phone & need to have a certain spec for programs to run or may not be fully
compatible with certain handsets. Then theres the potential of HTC, Ericsson, Motorola, etc. wanting control on having their own separate app stores.

Hopefully it wont happen - maybe someone can spot a potential in the market & offer custom phones where you pick what you want hardware wise
ie, memory/storage, MP on the camera, etc. like as we have done with computers in the last 20+ years - I know something similar has been offered
on them Asian sites in the past.

Agreed.  Fragmentation is a big problem.  The HTC Hero that I have was once the Flagship HTC phone, but it was quickly dropped.  It was stuck with 1.5 for ages, Its only just been upgraded to 2.1.  
Only the Google Experience devices are safe, the G1, the Nexus One etc.
Youll end up with a similar problem with Apple though, New IOS is only for 3g, 3gs and 4, but its a hardware limitation as opposed to a desire to push more handsets.
I saw a SE phone thats due to come out soon, with 1.5 on it, Google should remove the source for 1.5 now that there is 1.6, 2.1 and 2.2.  Force Devs to use the latest.  1.5 is buggy as hell, and manufacturers dont help when they bastardise the OS.

Edit: Completely forgot about Blackberry! - I actually like these too and think they make great work phones and handy with UMA if you live in a house with no reception!

One of the lads I work with wrote a very cool little Python script that allows you to unlock the Engineering screen.  That means you can manually tap the UMA info in to the handset.  Did mine last night, and its working perfectly as far as I can see.  Will be nice for roaming through WiFi if nothing else!

They make rugged PDAs, EPOC was renamed Symbian, then sold that part to Nokia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion

Theyre around, just doing something different.