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Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 14:08:22 PM
So you couldnt do twitter, youtube and facebook with the technology available in 2000 ?

Of course you could. All the same stuff was available.

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Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 18:14:43 PM
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.. Some gorgous sites out there now, Using Grid systems, CSS design, Typography!


I dont care about gorgeous, I want USEABLE! :drama:

Most good ideas are relatively simple.

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Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 18:23:16 PM
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ROLF ROLF, do you type your work emails like a teenager too ?
Nope, Just laughing quite hard.
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Anyway, what exactly has advanced since 2000? You tell me since youre the IT professional. We now have ajax so maybe shopping baskets update without a page refresh. Whoopie do

You asking this, will just leave you to it. So much has changed to even ask this is well.... Just do not know what to say. There are people out of the loop and then there are people without a clue.
I could go on from standards, SEO, Styles, The code... All areas but it would be pages of pages if you have no idea what is different.

Mean response times, Net speed, Silverlight, Flash has come a long way, response sizes, tracing, object type evolution (Image formats if you dont know) , Traffic volume and size, html, xhtml has changed, Principles of code, standards, SEO, Design of sites, Web interfaces, The whole online web application and their design, Page Size, Code size, compression, caching, dynamic pages, javascripts evolution, ajax, JSON, Server code, Ruby on rails as it is now for example, Web infrastructure itself, conventions, mobile web, support for the mobile web, API evolution and expandability, usability, Browsers themselves, site layout - Grid systems etc, OO CSS conventions, XML Technologies, Social Networking!!!!!, widgets, Service-Oriented Architecture, Online profiling, tables gone to nice div layouts (IF you know what your doing, Style in style not inline (again if you know what your doing) , small things like         in 2000/2001 being used (Not going to name names but someone here still does that) and not doing it now, Form Design, Online Storage, Form Function, Form Validation, Captcha and other anti spam approaches ..............

God, so many. You honestly not just being silly and asking that question sam?

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Youtube did not exist till 2005
Facebook went from "aboutface" as a web directory for businesses to "thefacebook" which was networks and colleges to "facebook" and today.

Facebook in 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010517235729/http://facebook.com/
Facebook Today: http://www.facebook.com/home.php

Youtube in 2005: http://web.archive.org/web/20050428014715/http://www.youtube.com/
Youtube today: http://www.youtube.com/

Digg from design to how it works and what it means and does for the web from 2005 to now, Not changed?  :rofl:

Honestly Sam, you are kidding?

Forgot about Blogging and Blogging technology, Twitter and like to ...





You forgot HD porn.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

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Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 20:27:07 PM
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So you couldnt do twitter, youtube and facebook with the technology available in 2000 ?

Of course you could. All the same stuff was available.

Actually no you couldnt.
When Twitter launched it was capped at 2000 people.

Here is another one for you sam - Cloud computing..
pete - HD Porn, Dam, knew I missed something - :)

Serious - Nice looking sites but also usable, the way you log in on forms etc are much better on good sites. The typography and grid ethos is there to improve readability and thus usability.
"dont make me think" is a great book for the web savvy for example.

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Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 21:19:51 PM
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So you couldnt do twitter, youtube and facebook with the technology available in 2000 ?

Of course you could. All the same stuff was available.

Actually no you couldnt.
When Twitter launched it was capped at 2000 people.



lol

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Reply #20 on: July 16, 2009, 22:36:32 PM
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So you couldnt do twitter, youtube and facebook with the technology available in 2000 ?

Of course you could. All the same stuff was available.

Actually no you couldnt.
When Twitter launched it was capped at 2000 people.



lol


I take it you never saw the how twitter was formed then?
Google stuff, yeah - could do all that in 2000 yeah?

Question then - Why did no one?
Oh dear, honestly.

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Reply #21 on: July 16, 2009, 23:53:09 PM
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So you couldnt do twitter, youtube and facebook with the technology available in 2000 ?

Of course you could. All the same stuff was available.

Actually no you couldnt.
When Twitter launched it was capped at 2000 people.



lol


I take it you never saw the how twitter was formed then?
Google stuff, yeah - could do all that in 2000 yeah?

Question then - Why did no one?
Oh dear, honestly.


Why did no one do what? Setup youtube, twitter? Someone has to be first. It wasnt because of a lack of browser-side technology, more a lack of userbase and knowledge of where the internet was going, and the widescale adoption of broadband to make it worthwhile. And of course the sheer time and money required to do them! Youre somehow suggesting that twitter or facebook required some technological leap. Clearly that is the most ridiculous statement youve ever posted (and thats up against some pretty stiff competition). Facebook is a page containing some photos and what you did last night. Twitter is even simpler. These sites arent popular because of clever code, theyre popular because theyre a good idea. And ideas that dont need Firefox 3.5

Quite simply, I dont know if youre just stupid or incredibly arrogant (or both). The underlying capabilities of the browser have not changed (signficicantly) since 2000. Posting up sets of screenshots like you did before does not show better technology but simply more sophisticated application of existing technology as the skill and experience of the designers has improved. Not a single site I use day in day out could not have been done in IE5 10 years ago.

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Reply #22 on: July 17, 2009, 00:02:31 AM
Surely Twitter would broadly work in Lynx or similar (untested by me) so shouldnt be a stretch for it work in any browser since 1432?

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