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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #75 on: April 18, 2006, 11:52:49 AM
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Hmm. Nightmare.

What about the PCI/Busmastering issue - we didnt quite agree on the way forward on that one.  On of off?

Others have suggested its a heat issue but I dont think so - Tomb Raider: Legend CTDd (consistently) within the first couple of minutes.  SWBFII (cranked way high) lasted anything up to two hours.

Bleedin pooters...  :evil:


cant see BM being the problem but just rty it any way

Did you up the RAM voltage?
You also really need to try a different PSU

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #76 on: April 18, 2006, 13:14:21 PM
Heres my current state:

Settings:

CPU Core Voltage: 1.65v
DDR SDRAM Voltage: 2.6v
Chipset Voltage: 1.6v
AGP Voltage: 1.5v

PSU Actuals (fluctuations etc):

CPU: 1.63 to 1.64v
VCC Voltage: 2.64v
I/O Voltage: 3.28 to 3.34v
+5: 5.02 to 5.05v
+12: 11.97 to 12.03v
-12: 12.11 to 12.19
-5: 5.5v
3.3 Dual Voltage: 3.56 to 3.58v

I also noticed that the SATA Controller was enabled and SATA RAID ROM was enabled also - I take it it wont hurt to disable them (I use IDE)?

PCI Latency Timer: 32 Clock(s)

 

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #77 on: April 18, 2006, 13:36:44 PM
 
According to the RAM spec sheet:

"Test Voltage [size=24]2.75v[/size]"  :roll:

Havent tested it yet.

Still doesnt explain though why the old setup had the same problem.  Perhaps the voltages might have been wrong for them too!
 

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #78 on: April 18, 2006, 14:01:33 PM
 
Research reveals the old RAM should have been running at 2.7volts...

We juuuust might be on to something here! :)
 
 

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #79 on: April 18, 2006, 14:29:17 PM
 
...

Nope.

I changed the voltage to 2.7 (the only increment the BIOS would allow) and I was able to play for 10 mins before it rebooted.  Hmm.  Rebooted - thats not happened before...

It was also on a continual reboot too.  It would get just past the Welcome screen and into Windows then reboot continuously.  So the voltage is now back down to 2.6...

Grrrr.   :evil:

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #80 on: April 18, 2006, 16:48:54 PM
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Nope.

I changed the voltage to 2.7 (the only increment the BIOS would allow) and I was able to play for 10 mins before it rebooted.  Hmm.  Rebooted - thats not happened before...

It was also on a continual reboot too.  It would get just past the Welcome screen and into Windows then reboot continuously.  So the voltage is now back down to 2.6...

Grrrr.   :evil:



have you updated your BIOS???

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #81 on: April 18, 2006, 16:49:34 PM
what was that you mentioned about a firewire port / drive connected to a usb header?
did you sort that out?

90% sure it wont be the problem but still if you know somethings wrong its best to cure it.

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #82 on: April 18, 2006, 17:23:20 PM
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what was that you mentioned about a firewire port / drive connected to a usb header?
did you sort that out?

90% sure it wont be the problem but still if you know somethings wrong its best to cure it.
It was simply that Id "connected" a firewire lead into a 1394 socket.  The device wasnt powered so there shouldnt have been a problem.  Removed now and still, the problem persists. :(

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #83 on: April 18, 2006, 17:24:18 PM
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have you updated your BIOS???
Ill be attempting that in minutes few. :)

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #84 on: April 18, 2006, 20:41:35 PM
Done.

Now for some gametime. :)

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #85 on: April 18, 2006, 20:58:00 PM
good luck

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #86 on: April 18, 2006, 22:23:01 PM
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Thinking about using just the one stick again - if it works, its a workaround - but Id be pretty miffed as Ive just forked out £100+ on a new pair. :(

Bleedin pooters...  :evil:


Id go back down to one stick, it wont make that much difference in the short tearm, and itll help us identify the problem if that fixes it :)


...just to clarify..... the system was stable and good ? started having these problems, then you upgraded, and the problems are still there ?

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #87 on: April 18, 2006, 22:45:37 PM
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...just to clarify..... the system was stable and good? started having these problems, then you upgraded, and the problems are still there ?
My systemss always been pretty rock-solid in Windows.  Ive not been able to play games though since X3: Reunion came out.

Ive seen massive benefits with the upgrade - especially the graphics card - but the old game crashing problem still exists. :)

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #88 on: April 18, 2006, 23:11:15 PM
 
Bugger. After the BIOS update, system crashes during gaming and reboots. :(

But, I finally get some sense out of Microsoft:

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Error caused by a video device driver :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Thank you for sending an error report to Microsoft.

Error report summary

Error type Windows stop error (A message appears on a blue screen with error code information)

Solution available? Yes

What does this error mean? You received this message because a device driver installed on your computer caused the Windows operating system to stop unexpectedly. This type of error is referred to as a "stop error." A stop error requires you to restart your computer.
 
Cause A video adapter device driver

Computer symptoms A message appears on a blue screen with error code information:

STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER
- or -
STOP: 0x100000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER_M  

Action for you to take

We have analyzed your error report and there are two solutions for this problem for you to choose between.

+ Solution 1: Install the most current driver for your video card

yadda yadda...

+ Solution 2: Manually decrease Hardware Acceleration for your video adapter

This procedure prevents the display driver from programming the hardware incorrectly, but you may lose some display functionality and performance. Although you can increase the hardware acceleration settings higher than None to regain functionality and performance, these settings increase the chance that the issue will occur again. For maximum stability, leave hardware acceleration turned off.

Note: This procedure prevents the display driver from programming the hardware incorrectly, but you may lose some display functionality and performance. Although you can increase the hardware acceleration settings higher than None to regain functionality and performance, these settings increase the chance that the issue will occur again. For maximum stability, leave hardware acceleration off.

Article ID : 11
Last Review : February 28, 2006
Revision : 1.0

Additional Technical Information

Error Message: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER (Q293078)

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Errr....  :shock:

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+ Solution 1: Install the most current driver for your video card
Ive already done that...

So which driver out of the millions available shall I go with?...
 

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #89 on: April 18, 2006, 23:46:23 PM
Is Sideband Addressing enabled in BIOS??? If it is disable it.

Have you got the latest DirectX installed???

Try a older Omega driver from the archive http://www.omegadrivers.net/ (6.1 or 6.2)

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