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memory hogs
on: November 17, 2012, 01:13:33 AM
is it just me, or does everything try to hog crazy amounts of ram these days ?

new flash player update has foobared streaming videos from 4oD and crashes firefox....

I tried a restart (which I don't do much) but it still crashed and while I was end tasking firefox... I had processes sorted by ram usage....

352meg firefox (doing nothing, just 5 basic tabs open and 1 4oD tab)
313meg internet explorer (playing a 4oD film which wouldn't work in firefox)
310meg windows live mail (sitting in background)
232meg plugin container (for the 1 4od page which is open... but doing nothing)
212meg steam (doing nothing)
138meg msn (doing nothing)
113meg skype (doing nothing)
58meg dropbox


it doesn't seam like a big deal now... but just a few years ago this would have been crazy....

I can understand stuff being left in ram if there's plenty free... but that's ram usage right after a restart... steam 212meg, msn 138meg, skype 113meg... I haven't even looked at them... they loaded right up into the notification area next to the clock!

Re: memory hogs
Reply #1 on: November 17, 2012, 08:05:32 AM
Yeah it does seem that now ram is so cheap the people that make the software make no attempt to keep it small anymore, it's just lazy coding.

like you say a couple of years ago ram usage was a major factor when choosing software.
FF over IE.
Winamp over wmp.
uTorrent over most the others
AVG over most the others

but now everything is bloatware.
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Re: memory hogs
Reply #2 on: November 17, 2012, 13:22:53 PM
People thought I was mad for getting 32GB but its the only thing that stops things like buggy, leaky firefox crashing all the time. Firefox is using 2.5GB ram right now and overall I'm using 50% of my physical memory. Not that mozilla are entirely to blame. Flash needs to die and buggy javascripts need to be handled better, as thats where the core problem lies. The only other big app I have open is Photoshop (using 4.5GB) right now, but still 16GB of memory on basic apps like MSN, FF, IE, Chrome, Skype, Windows Live Mail!

Everything is a memory hog these days.

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Re: memory hogs
Reply #3 on: November 17, 2012, 15:11:02 PM
In ubuntu FF takes 148 + 40 shared, Dropbox 35 + 9 shared and Skype 66 + 18 shared.

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Reply #4 on: November 19, 2012, 21:58:24 PM
tip, maximise Skype, then minimise to task bar. RAM use will drop to about 60 megs. or at least it used to on my old work laptop before I got an upgrade and stopped having to worry about every megabyte.

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Reply #5 on: November 19, 2012, 23:24:36 PM
tip, maximise Skype, then minimise to task bar. RAM use will drop to about 60 megs. or at least it used to on my old work laptop before I got an upgrade and stopped having to worry about every megabyte.

I've got 16gig... so not really bothered....

just kinda pisses me off that all these companies have got so lazy....

ok... they're probably holding onto more ram because I've got plenty of space...

but how the hell can skype/msn etc.. even use 200meg or ram when they're not doing anything but sitting in the background checking?

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Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 00:59:24 AM
tip, maximise Skype, then minimise to task bar. RAM use will drop to about 60 megs. or at least it used to on my old work laptop before I got an upgrade and stopped having to worry about every megabyte.

I've got 16gig... so not really bothered....

just kinda pisses me off that all these companies have got so lazy....

ok... they're probably holding onto more ram because I've got plenty of space...

but how the hell can skype/msn etc.. even use 200meg or ram when they're not doing anything but sitting in the background checking?
Same reason browsing the web on anything less than 2mbit is a ball ache. Optimisation is not as important now as it was a few years ago.

Wouldn't surprise me if due to the efficiency of ssds things get even more inefficient in the software world. Give it a year or 2 and that ssd you have now will be returning performance on par with your normal hdd :)

Re: memory hogs
Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 08:32:12 AM
absolutely right. for software companies time is money, and writing software cleverly to squeeze maximum performance out of the hardware takes longer and so costs more.

one of the most interesting sounding projects at my work recently involved coding for an embedded system with very few resources. The developers had to look up techniques from the 80s to minimise RAM usage and maximise performance.

When an average laptop has 4-8gb available, its just not worth the effort to save 50 megs.

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