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Re: What would you do?
Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 21:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mark on January 19, 2011, 21:32:28 PM
If the DMF isn't going (vibration at idle for example) just leave it.

Here's one for you then, as I'm pretty clueless.

Our clutch doesn't seem to slip but it judders when you're setting off.
Doesn't do it all the time, but gets worse in cold weather.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 21:53:52 PM
Quote from: soopahfly on January 19, 2011, 21:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mark on January 19, 2011, 21:32:28 PM
If the DMF isn't going (vibration at idle for example) just leave it.

Here's one for you then, as I'm pretty clueless.

Our clutch doesn't seem to slip but it judders when you're setting off.
Doesn't do it all the time, but gets worse in cold weather.

my Renault Kangoo van does that, and it also has a slight pulsing vibration at idle so I have always assumed the DMF is abit worn.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 22:07:08 PM
Quote from: soopahfly on January 19, 2011, 21:50:45 PM
Quote from: Mark on January 19, 2011, 21:32:28 PM
If the DMF isn't going (vibration at idle for example) just leave it.

Here's one for you then, as I'm pretty clueless.

Our clutch doesn't seem to slip but it judders when you're setting off.
Doesn't do it all the time, but gets worse in cold weather.

DMF more likely to produce shudder during acceleration, lumpy idle, squeaky noise on downshift. Might make a rattly noise when you turn the car off too.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #18 on: January 22, 2011, 11:35:07 AM
Made a start on it last night, it was a cold, long night didn't get in untill 23.45.

Got a good bit done, a crazy amount of stuff has to be removed for the gearbox to come off.

and carried on this morning, it is going well tbh but I am just having a dilema about the flywheel..

do i risk it and save £400 with the possibility it will fail very soon after.

anyway, some pics of the progress.



















decisions decisions
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #19 on: January 22, 2011, 11:37:43 AM
You're lucky to be able to do this.  I'm at a point of throwing it at a garage with large handfuls of cash.
Although, it's £595 for Honda to do it (excluding DMF) as part of their Honda Happiness scheme.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #20 on: January 22, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
I wouldnt bother using a dealer far to expensive, should be looking sub £400 for just the clutch.

These DMF are pissing me off, the original on mine feels very solid and can only move it a few mm by hand but I dont know how much leverage they use to test the sub 30mm rule, but dont want it to fail in the future and dont want to spend nearly a weeks wages on a new one.

Quote from: soopahfly on January 22, 2011, 11:37:43 AM
You're lucky to be able to do this.  I'm at a point of throwing it at a garage with large handfuls of cash.
Although, it's £595 for Honda to do it (excluding DMF) as part of their Honda Happiness scheme.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #21 on: January 22, 2011, 11:57:26 AM
If it's that big a concern you really need to get the gearbox sorted and sell, the longer you leave it the more likely you are to end up with a worthless car. Get it running, get it swapped.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #22 on: January 22, 2011, 13:56:32 PM
personally.... I wouldn't worry about it....


or... can you get a normal flywheel for it for cheaper ?

i converted all my transits back to normal flywheels when I've done the clutches on them... i prefer them, can;t tell the difference when you're driving... and it was about half the price of a DMF :o
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #23 on: January 22, 2011, 14:07:30 PM
This seems interesting, DMF most of the time needs to be changed with every clutch change, starting in second really wears them down.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/engines-transmission/22468-clutch-judder-not-slipping-dmf.html
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #24 on: January 22, 2011, 14:26:13 PM
People shouldn't be moving off in 2nd unless they're rolling I thought, it puts strain on something?
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #25 on: January 22, 2011, 15:00:53 PM
I've just stuck the new clutch on.

I am struggling to get the gearbox back on atm, its a heavy SOB and it just wont line up properly.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #26 on: January 22, 2011, 15:58:53 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 22, 2011, 14:26:13 PM
People shouldn't be moving off in 2nd unless they're rolling I thought, it puts strain on something?

I was thinking of the winter driving advices (which I believe are wrong though)
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #27 on: January 22, 2011, 16:10:22 PM
Quote from: DEViANCE on January 22, 2011, 15:00:53 PM
I've just stuck the new clutch on.

I am struggling to get the gearbox back on atm, its a heavy SOB and it just wont line up properly.


did you use a clutch centring tool ? to centre the clutch on the flywheel ? if the centre of the clutch isn't lined up properly with the bearing in the centre of the flywheel you'll never get it in....

other than that.... just keep jiggling it till it goes in :-(


I once couldn't get the gearbox back in a transit no matter what I did.... ended up taking the engine out thinking there was something wrong... (engine out is a piece of cake on a transit) I lined them up on the floor to have a look... couldn't see anything wrong so slod them closer... and the gearbox slid straight on wihtout even trying!
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #28 on: January 23, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
Good effort, not sure id have what it takes to do that

I had a clutch and DMF on a boxster, they showed me the old DMF and there was a ton of movement in it, could really tell when driving though.
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Re: What would you do?
Reply #29 on: January 24, 2011, 13:08:54 PM
Yesterday was a write off due to a monster hangover so I 'forgot' to go to work today so I could finish it off.

After an hour or so this morning and a nice halfords clutch alignment tool the gearbox and engine are now back together  :nana:

Used a combination of jack and bricks under the gearbox and scaff plank and rope from above and it slid together nicely.

Just need to bolt everything back together and put all the bits I had to take apart back on, hopefully will be done by this evening.
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