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Reply #15 on: February 15, 2008, 13:09:43 PM
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Thats better MPG than my beast!  I get 18-22mpg!

modern German efficiency i guess lol

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Reply #16 on: February 15, 2008, 13:17:00 PM
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an extra £25 a day in London too.  Silly rule.


didnt realise that, thought there was just the extra charge for lorrys ...

Not sure its live yet but theyve added chelsea tractors into it now.  £25 a day is a hell of a lot tbh.

£25 more in the Labour governments pocket, thats why they do it.

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Reply #17 on: February 15, 2008, 13:21:11 PM
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lorries are £200+

That is true, and large 4WDs are £25 :)  The difference being that a lorry is usually there on business so making the money back whereas a car is generally a personal thing so they shell out £25 a day 365 days a year or buy a new car.  But guess were wandering off topic.  Nice car :D

edit: obviously this is on top of the normal daily congestion charge.

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Reply #18 on: February 15, 2008, 13:31:15 PM
Im getting about 26-28 on the Golf on a general drive, morotway around 34. I dont understand how some people can afford some of these fuel costs...

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Reply #19 on: February 15, 2008, 14:35:49 PM
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lorries are £200+

That is true, and large 4WDs are £25 :)  The difference being that a lorry is usually there on business so making the money back whereas a car is generally a personal thing so they shell out £25 a day 365 days a year or buy a new car.  But guess were wandering off topic.  Nice car :D

edit: obviously this is on top of the normal daily congestion charge.


Erm.. yes on business...

So Tescos delivering fresh produce to a store will suck up the £200? not bloody likely. Its a business expense that will hit the consumer in the pocket.

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Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 15:14:12 PM
so deliver the fruit n veg out side of the CC hours save the £, IIRC you dont pay the CC if your already in the zone before the charge applies either

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Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 18:28:01 PM
The last time I was in germany lorries were only allowed on roads at a certain time - I think.

Im all for larger charges for SUVs - Tax should be £1000 per year, like it is in southern ireland.

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Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 18:56:20 PM
pah, if you want to be a communist then yeah sure tax the big expensive cars

cars already get taxed in proportion to size due to the extra fuel they used and the stupid amount of tax on that!

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Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 19:03:08 PM
Not really, the MR2 will do 3-4mpg when giving it some stick but 30mpg cruising admittedly

Larger vehicles - heavier road wear, more room taken up, more space in car parks, more dangerous in collisions, use more oil, use more rubber, etc etc

I wouldnt have a tax on expensive cars, just needlessly large vehicles.

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Reply #24 on: February 15, 2008, 19:03:46 PM
But that sort of tax makes it unfair to the people that actually need to use them.

For example, the work I do isnt possible in a small Eco-worrier friendly car.  They wont let me on quarries in a small car, and they are now not allowing petrols on.
Diesel only, and larger vehicals only.  I also need to get across fields and other boggy/submerged areas.  I cant afford to buy a new car, and I wouldnt take a new car across what I do.  Citified 4x4s can have the £1000 tax bracket :D

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Reply #25 on: February 15, 2008, 19:10:16 PM
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use more oil, use more rubber, etc etc.

Owner already covers this cost

And "more dangerous in collisions" more likely to see one coming and avoid it since you have a better view up there is a good argument for that

and more room when parking? my car fits in a standard sized car parking space.. whats the problem?

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Reply #26 on: February 15, 2008, 19:10:36 PM
There is piss all room in most SUVs for storage when compared to large estates though - its all taken up by seats. most SUVs are sh*te offroad to boot.

You need a unimog

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Reply #27 on: February 15, 2008, 19:15:16 PM
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use more oil, use more rubber, etc etc.

Owner already covers this cost

And "more dangerous in collisions" more likely to see one coming and avoid it since you have a better view up there is a good argument for that

and more room when parking? my car fits in a standard sized car parking space.. whats the problem?


It fits leaving little room for people either side to get out. In the US they have seperate bays for SUVs - should have something similar here (But charge more for their use)

Theyre more dangerous in collisions for several reasons - theyre heavy, in winter weather owners seem to think they can plough through snow better not realising the wide tyres leave them less braking effort and easier to slide out of control, they aquaplane like mad due to the tyre width, they roll like mad because theyre top heavy, braking distances are appalling (And I include the cayenne in that)

I used to have a Landcruiser - but theyre utterly useless on our roads compared to a car and well out of place in 9/10 situations


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Reply #28 on: February 16, 2008, 00:06:56 AM
Im with Mark on this one, sort of, Id tax those that dont need an large 4x4. If you are doing towing or farming or need it to recover vehicles then I can understand and a tax rebate should be established. Although I think those families that use 4x4s to drive around are utterly pointless.

You could get the same shop in a skoda Octavia, the shop most would do on a weekend and compare all the pollution aspects of an Octavia to a large 4x4, mpg, insurance, tax, buying cost, etc. Then I think the Octavia would make a great car for those families to run their kids to school and pick up £150 worth of shopping.

But the rangy looks in good nick, I noticed the number plate shows only 02, is that advertising? or is it a problem you have to get fixed? ;)

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Reply #29 on: February 16, 2008, 11:01:53 AM
Not to mention them being more likely to hit you in the face than the foot in a collision, but sure you dont get about that BS as long as youre looking Country Pimpin  :disappointed:
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